What is the difference between how God the Father will draw people to Christ and how Christ will draw people to Christ?

There are some who can not accept that God will not save all. They bring up the fact that Christ will draw all people to Himself. But they don’t look at the context to see why Christ will draw all men to Himself. So in examining this, I wanted to look at why the Father draws some to Christ and why Christ draws all to Christ.

Scripture tells us that God the FATHER draws people to Christ for salvation. All that the Father gives to Christ will come to Christ. Only those people the Father gives to Christ can come to Christ. This tells us we are unable to come to Christ until and unless God gives us to Christ – there is a place and a time when we are to come to Christ.

John 6:35-40

35 Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me will not hunger, and he who believes in Me will never thirst. 36 But I said to you that you have seen Me, and yet do not believe. 37 All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out. 38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39 This is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up on the last day. 40 For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.

John 6:44

No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day.

John 6:64-65

64 But there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who it was that would betray Him. 65 And He was saying, “For this reason I have said to you, that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted him from the Father.”

But the Father is not the Son.  The Father will draw people to Christ to come to Christ and Christ will raise him up on the last day for salvation.

Jesus said He would draw all men to Himself. The question is why will CHRIST draw all men to Himself?.

John 12:31-33

31 Now is the time for judgment on this world; now the prince of this world will be driven out. 32 But I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to myself.” 33 He said this to show the kind of death he was going to die.

This says that Jesus will draw all men to himself. Notice, this is very different from the Father drawing people to Christ, which is seen in John 6:37, 44, 64-65. In those verses, we see that no one can come to CHrist unless that person has been granted permission by the Father, and ALL the Father gives to Christ WILL be lifted up (speaking of eternal life). However, in Joh 12:32, We see that Jesus will draw all men to him. We have to look to the fuller context of this passage, which is speaking of judgment (as seen in verse 31). So we see Jesus will draw all men to Himself for judgment – where believers will be found to be justified (so this will become the resurrection of life), but unbelievers will find this to the be resurrection of judgment (or damnation as we see in KJV) spoken of in John 5:29.

John 5:25-29

25 Truly, truly, I say to you, an hour is coming and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live. 26 For just as the Father has life in Himself, even so He gave to the Son also to have life in Himself; 27 and He gave Him authority to execute judgment, because He is the Son of Man. 28 Do not marvel at this; for an hour is coming, in which all who are in the tombs will hear His voice, 29 and will come forth; those who did the good deeds to a resurrection of life, those who committed the evil deeds to a resurrection of judgment.

Everyone will be resurrected – some to life, and some to judgement and then to entry into the lake of fire.

Revelation 20:15
And if anyone’s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
The difference between God the Father drawing people and Christ drawing people to Christ is the reason for the draw – The Father draws people to Christ for salvation, while the Son draws all to himself for resurrection to life or to judgement.

Mourning the deceased…

Sometimes, its hard, remembering our loved ones who have passed away – especially those who did not know the Lord.

But God will comfort us, if we seek Him, if we ask Him.

Matthew 5:4 Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted.

Psalm 34:18 The Lord is near to the brokenhearted and saves the crushed in spirit.

Psalm 147:3 He heals the brokenhearted and binds up their wounds.

Philippians 4:6-7
Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

2 Corinthians 1:3-4
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our affliction, so that we may be able to comfort those who are in any affliction, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God.

Psalm 30:5 For his anger is but for a moment, and his favor is for a lifetime. Weeping may tarry for the night, but joy comes with the morning.

Matthew 11:28 Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Romans 12:15 Rejoice with those who rejoice, weep with those who weep.

1 Peter 5:6-7
Humble yourselves, therefore, under the mighty hand of God so that at the proper time he may exalt you, casting all your anxieties on him, because he cares for you.

Proverbs 15:13 A glad heart makes a cheerful face, but by sorrow of heart the spirit is crushed.

2 Corinthians 1:3-4
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, 4 who comforts us in all our affliction so that we will be able to comfort those who are in any affliction with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God.

Revelation 14:13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying, “Write this: Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on.” “Blessed indeed,” says the Spirit, “that they may rest from their labors, for their deeds follow them!”

Leviticus 19:31 Do not turn to mediums or necromancers; do not seek them out, and so make yourselves unclean by them: I am the Lord your God

2 Samuel 12:23 (about David’s infant son who died)
But now he is dead. Why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I shall go to him, but he will not return to me.

Feeling Suicidal? You aren’t alone.

Ever feel suicidal? The Apostle Paul did.

One reason we feel so burdened beyond our own strength, despairing, is so we can trust in God and be delivered by Him.

1 Corinthians 1:8-10
8 For we do not want you to be unaware, brethren, of our affliction which came to us in Asia, that we were burdened excessively, beyond our strength, so that we despaired even of life; 9 indeed, we had the sentence of death within ourselves so that we would not trust in ourselves, but in God who raises the dead; 10 who delivered us from so great a peril of death, and will deliver us, He on whom we have set our hope. And He will yet deliver us

Suffering and comfort…

One reason we suffer is so God can comfort us so we can comfort others with the same comfort we received from God.

2 Corinthians 1:3-4
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, 4 who comforts us in all our affliction so that we will be able to comfort those who are in any affliction with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God.

Resolving problems in personal relationships

If you have a problem with someone, you should overlook it if you can (Prov. 19:11). But if you cant, scripture is clear you have the responsibility to go to them and try to work it out (Matthew 18:15, Luke 17:3). If you cant work it out, take someone else with you and try again (Matthew 18:16; Dt 19:15). If you still cant work it out, tell it the church and if you still cant work it out, refrain from fellowship with that person (Matthew 18:17).

If you know someone has a problem with you, scripture is clear you have the responsibility to go to them and try to work it out (Matthew 5:23-24).

If you are hurt by someone or someone does something against you or those you know and/or love, scripture says you are to forgive (Matthew 6:9-15). This does not mean to trust them or not put boundaries up to protect yourself. Just dont get bitter, but forgive.

Science vs Religion

Science can only measure repeatable events. Theology provides an explanation of that which exists beyond the realm of science. Science without religion does not exist. Religion without science does not exist. The two have always been closely intermingled. They always will be.

Just as there are certain physical laws that have been discovered and used to create better societies, so too exist certain moral laws. These moral laws transcend any given society. Once a society begins to ignore these laws, that society’s fabric of being begins to disintegrate. It might take centuries for it to disappear, and indeed aspects of said society may always remain. But as a cohesive society, it will disappear.

Examples of moral laws would be ‘do not steal’, ‘do not murder’, ‘help the weak’. Now, how those laws are interpreted might change from society to society – for instance, aboriginal tribes might consider it OK to steal from those outside the tribe, as they are not considered ‘people’. But the rule still exists.

God, being a god of order, created everything – the physical laws and the moral laws. He did so to help us interact with our environment – including other people. But He DID create them. There are many stories around the world that reflect the same, or similar, history. There ARE apparently fantastical stories, and more common stories to describe similar events. But there seems to be a common thread to them all. ‘Educated’ people call these myths.

But science is unable to measure things like ‘ghosts’, which seem to exist in multiple societies. Science is unable to measure why some people are able to make prophetic statements that come true. Science has never been able to provide all the answers, nor will it ever be able to provide all the answers. However, it is BECAUSE of religion that many scientific breakthroughs have occurred (https://wbmoore.wordpress.com/2008/07/30/faith-and-science/).

History actually validates religion and science. For example, look at the Bible. It has been proven time and time again to be historically accurate (https://wbmoore.wordpress.com/2008/08/14/is-the-bible-trustworthy/). To try to ignore God is to put yourself in the position of God in your life. We are free to do so, but I am afraid that those who choose to do so will end up suffering for it.

In the end, if I am right, I have gained everything by trusting in Jesus Christ as having been sent by God the Father to suffer and die to pay the price of my sins. If I am wrong, I have lost nothing, and have stilled gained because I am a better person because of it.

Sex and virginity

Have you ever wondered what God thinks about being a virgin upon marriage?
Deuteronomy 22:13-29
13 “If any man takes a wife and goes in to her and then turns against her, 14 and charges her with shameful deeds and publicly defames her, and says, ‘I took this woman, but when I came near her, I did not find her a virgin,’ 15 then the girl’s father and her mother shall take and bring out the evidence of the girl’s virginity to the elders of the city at the gate. 16 The girl’s father shall say to the elders, ‘I gave my daughter to this man for a wife, but he turned against her; 17 and behold, he has charged her with shameful deeds, saying, “I did not find your daughter a virgin.” But this is the evidence of my daughter’s virginity.’ And they shall spread the garment before the elders of the city. 18 So the elders of that city shall take the man and chastise him, 19 and they shall fine him a hundred shekels of silver and give it to the girl’s father, because he publicly defamed a virgin of Israel. And she shall remain his wife; he cannot divorce her all his days.
20 “But if this charge is true, that the girl was not found a virgin, 21 then they shall bring out the girl to the doorway of her father’s house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death because she has committed an act of folly in Israel by playing the harlot in her father’s house; thus you shall purge the evil from among you.
22 “If a man is found lying with a married woman, then both of them shall die, the man who lay with the woman, and the woman; thus you shall purge the evil from Israel.
23 “If there is a girl who is a virgin engaged to a man, and another man finds her in the city and lies with her, 24 then you shall bring them both out to the gate of that city and you shall stone them to death; the girl, because she did not cry out in the city, and the man, because he has violated his neighbor’s wife. Thus you shall purge the evil from among you.
25 “But if in the field the man finds the girl who is engaged, and the man forces her and lies with her, then only the man who lies with her shall die. 26 But you shall do nothing to the girl; there is no sin in the girl worthy of death, for just as a man rises against his neighbor and murders him, so is this case. 27 When he found her in the field, the engaged girl cried out, but there was no one to save her.
28 “If a man finds a girl who is a virgin, who is not engaged, and seizes her and lies with her and they are discovered, 29 then the man who lay with her shall give to the girl’s father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall become his wife because he has violated her; he cannot divorce her all his days.
1 Corinthians 7:25-38

25 Now concerning virgins I have no command of the Lord, but I give an opinion as one who by the mercy of the Lord is trustworthy. 26 I think then that this is good in view of the present distress, that it is good for a man to remain as he is. 27 Are you bound to a wife? Do not seek to be released. Are you released from a wife? Do not seek a wife. 28 But if you marry, you have not sinned; and if a virgin marries, she has not sinned. Yet such will have trouble in this life, and I am trying to spare you. 29 But this I say, brethren, the time has been shortened, so that from now on those who have wives should be as though they had none; 30 and those who weep, as though they did not weep; and those who rejoice, as though they did not rejoice; and those who buy, as though they did not possess; 31 and those who use the world, as though they did not make full use of it; for the form of this world is passing away.

32 But I want you to be free from concern. One who is unmarried is concerned about the things of the Lord, how he may please the Lord; 33 but one who is married is concerned about the things of the world, how he may please his wife, 34 and his interests are divided. The woman who is unmarried, and the virgin, is concerned about the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and spirit; but one who is married is concerned about the things of the world, how she may please her husband. 35 This I say for your own benefit; not to put a restraint upon you, but to promote what is appropriate and to secure undistracted devotion to the Lord.

36 But if any man thinks that he is acting unbecomingly toward his virgin daughter, if she is past her youth, and if it must be so, let him do what he wishes, he does not sin; let her marry.37 But he who stands firm in his heart, being under no constraint, but has authority over his own will, and has decided this in his own heart, to keep his own virgin daughter, he will do well. 38 So then both he who gives his own virgin daughter in marriage does well, and he who does not give her in marriage will do better.

 

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