Are believers in Christ to follow the Law from the Old Testament?

I have heard Jewish believers in Christ say the New Testament does not replace anything in the Old Testament. But it seems to me that unless the New Testament does not apply to Jewish believers, then at least some things HAVE been  changed with the New Testament.

Paul chastised Peter for buckling under to the circumcision group in Galatia (Gal 2:11-16).  That’s  part  of the whole point of that book – the freedom we have in Christ.

Paul was clear that the purpose of the law was to lead us to Christ.

Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law (Gal 3:19-25).

In fact we see in Gal 3:26-29 that we who have faith in Christ are not Jew nor Gentile, but the children of God.

Gal 5:1 It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.

Gal 5:11 Brothers, if I am still preaching circumcision,
why am I still being persecuted in that case the offense of the cross has been abolished.

Circumcision is now of the heart instead of physical. Titus was not circumcized (Gal 2:3).

Col 2:11 In him you were also circumcised, in the putting off of the sinful nature,
not with a circumcision done by the hands of men but with the circumcision done by Christ

We are free to eat and drink as we wish, and free to celebrate which ever festival days or sabbaths we wish.

Col 2:16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink,
or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.

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22 Responses

  1. I completely agree.

  2. Those that are so-called Messianic Jews, have to at least follow Acts 15. Just like the Gentile Christians (15:19-20; 22-29). The first Apostolic Council!

  3. Walter, no it doesn’t. In case you don’t know, the “Galatians” were gentile. The “Colossians” were gentile. “Titus” was gentile. All the verses you just quoted us from Galatians have to do with Paul rebuking Peter for COMMANDING gentile Christians to observe Jewish customs. Gentiles are, were, and will never be required to observe Torah (even mainstream Judaism teaches this, re: the Noahide laws).

    To forget the audience to whom the authors of the NT were talking does you a great unjustice, and furthers the general ignorance prevalent in today’s Christian body. Paul primarily talked to gentiles. Jesus talked primarily to Jews.

    BOTTOM LINE: gentile Christians have little more than the Noahide laws to observe (Acts 21:25)…. See More
    BOTTOM LINE: Jewish Christians have the Torah [and technically,at least a significant part of Talmud] to observe (Matthew 5:17-20, Matthew 19:16,17).

    To say that “there is neither Jew nor Gentile” is ridiculously convenient and distorts the meaning of the passage as well as the entire NT; do yourself, your church, and us a favor and quote the rest of the verse you decided to edit: “There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” –Galatians 3:28

    Last time we all checked, there are still men and women, with veryREAL differences–physical, behavioral, and social. Neither one is better than the other, but to say that Galatians 3:28 indicates the physical, behavioral, and social differences between Jews and Gentiles has been eradicated, your church is simply perpetuating the anti-Jewish and anti-Jesus teachings that have filled the gentile Christian community for the past 1700 years. Respectfully, you should speak to your pastor and inform him that he has dropped the ball in educating his flock.

    • Wow, Erin. I’m not sure you are aware of it, but you come across harsh and sensitive.

      First, if you feel God wants to you to follow the Law, then follow your conscience – each must be convinced in his own mind (Romans 14:5).

      But for you to suggest that certain scriptures do not apply to Jewish believers tells me someone you listen to has twisted scripture.
      2 Peter 3:15-16.

      15Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

      I was always taught that ALL scripture is to be used to learn and become who God has called us to be.

      2 Timothy 3:15-17

      15and how from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 16All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

      Yes, there are physical differences between men and women, but God treats believers in Christ as children of God – not as Jewish children and Gentile children. Either we are all decendants of Abraham, or we are not.

      Romans 4:16

      Therefore, the promise comes by faith, so that it may be by grace and may be guaranteed to all Abraham’s offspring—not only to those who are of the law but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham. He is the father of us all.

      I suppose the book of Mark would not apply to Jews? Too bad, because it is there we see that Jesus declared all food clean.
      Mark 7:14-23

      14 Again Jesus called the crowd to him and said, “Listen to me, everyone, and understand this. 15 Nothing outside a man can make him ‘unclean’ by going into him. Rather, it is what comes out of a man that makes him ‘unclean.’ ” 17 After he had left the crowd and entered the house, his disciples asked him about this parable. 18 “Are you so dull?” he asked. “Don’t you see that nothing that enters a man from the outside can make him ‘unclean’? 19 For it doesn’t go into his heart but into his stomach, and then out of his body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods “clean.”) 20 He went on: “What comes out of a man is what makes him ‘unclean.’ 21 For from within, out of men’s hearts, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, 22 greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. 23All these evils come from inside and make a man ‘unclean.

      The Law was to teach us about sin. But rightesouness comes from God through faith in Christ. The sacrificial system was put in place to lead people to Christ.

      Romans 3:19-20

      19 Now we know that whatever the law says, it says to those who are under the law, so that every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God. 20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin. 21 But now a righteousness from God, apart from law, has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify. 22 This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe.

      Romans 5:20-21

      20 The law was added so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more, 21 so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

      The Law was a shadow of what is coming. Christ set aside the sacrifices of the Law with a better sacrifice made once for all.

      Hebrews 10:1-14

      1The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming—not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship. 2If it could, would they not have stopped being offered? For the worshipers would have been cleansed once for all, and would no longer have felt guilty for their sins. 3But those sacrifices are an annual reminder of sins, 4because it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins. 5Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said: “Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, but a body you prepared for me; 6with burnt offerings and sin offerings you were not pleased. 7Then I said, ‘Here I am—it is written about me in the scroll— I have come to do your will, O God.’ ” 8First he said, “Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you pleased with them” (although the law required them to be made). 9Then he said, “Here I am, I have come to do your will.” He sets aside the first to establish the second. 10And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. 11Day after day every priest stands and performs his religious duties; again and again he offers the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. 12But when this priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God. 13Since that time he waits for his enemies to be made his footstool, 14because by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.

      Paul wrote that Jesus cancelled the written code.
      Colossians 2:13-16

      13 When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, 14 having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross. 15 And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross. 16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.

      Believers have been released from the Law.

      Romans 7:6

      6 But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

      To rely upon the Law is to put yourself under a curse.
      Galatians 3:10

      10 All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”

      If we try to keep the Law, and break one part of it, we are guilty of breaking all of it, according to James 2:10.

      10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

      We are justified through faith in Christ – not through the Law.
      Acts 13:39

      39Through him everyone who believes is justified from everything you could not be justified from by the law of Moses.

      I have written more on this subject here:
      https://wbmoore.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/christians-and-the-law/
      https://wbmoore.wordpress.com/2009/02/14/what-do-abolish-and-fulfill-mean-in-matthew-5-13-20/

    • Oh, and Erin, just because someone teaches that you are free from the Law (which is what scripture tells us), this does not mean they are anti-Jewish nor anti-Jesus. It simply means they teach what scripture teaches.

  4. Note, I said at least for the Messianic Jews, so-called (Acts 15). As Acts 21: 17-26 seems to show St. Paul did indeed take the Jewish law, and follow the Nazirite ceremony. But this was an act Paul did voluntarily. And no doubt for James and the elders there. It is an example of Paul to become “all things to all men” (1 Cor. 9:19-23). For the sake “of the gospel”. But also note, St. Paul says: “To the Jews I became as a Jew, in order to win Jews. To those under the law I became as one under the law (though not being myself under the law) that I might win those under the law.” (Verse 22) It is plain Paul saw himself no longer under the Jewish law.

  5. I, yes Erin…I in fact love the Jewish people, and modern Israel! They are still under “covenant”.

  6. Wow, I have no time to address the plethora of passages you find it necessary to toss out there. Focusing on one only for now, for the sake of quality, let’s tackle Mark 7.

    You are drawing your own conclusions that are not in any way found in the text. If Jesus truly advocated that “all foods were clean,” he would be eating every type of food. No one in the entire NT accused Jesus of the TYPE of food he was eating. Jesus ate the kosher foods outlined in the OT. What the elders actually accused him of in Mark 7: 2 was failing to observe an additional practice instituted by people, a practice not found in the OT.

    “They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to the traditions of men.” –Mark 7:7

    “And he said to them: ‘You have a fine way of SETTING ASIDE THE COMMANDMENTS of God in order to observe your OWN traditions! For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.’ But you…”–Mark 7:9,10

    Jesus clearly chided the elders for setting aside the COMMANDMENTS of God (the Torah). Jesus also clearly chided the elders for inventing their own way around what “Moses said…”

    You have proven my argument for me. As a parting thought, to further illustrate that Jesus was an orthodox Jew and commanded his Jewish (luckily for you, only Jewish) followers to be orthodox as well, I leave you with the unequivocal clarity of Matthew 23: 2-3

    “Then Jesus said to the [Jewish] crowds and to his [Jewish] disciples: ‘The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. So you must OBEY THEM and do EVERYTHING they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.”

    Be blessed.

    • So Erin, Then the text does not mean what the text states?

      Jesus spoke out against the priests teaching but not doing what God had said – he was against hypocrisy. Jesus wanted people to love God and love others. The Priests apparently did not do either.

      I disagree that Jesus would have been found eating any food. Jesus ensured no one would be able to lay a claim of sin on him.

      The Law was intended to lead us to Christ. If Galatians was written only to Gentiles, then that statement would not apply to them, because Gentiles were not under the Law.

      How could someone who was not under the Law die to the Law? They could not – the text applies to Jews.
      Romans 7:4

      So, my brothers, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit to God.

      How could the Law lead a Gentile to faith in Christ? A Gentile would not know the Law, so it could not have led him to faith in Christ. No, the text is aimed at Jews.
      Galatians 3:23-25

      23Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ[a] that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law.

      You want to ignore what Scripture tells us plainly. And you confuse whether Jews were under the Law before Christ’s sacrifice with whether Jews are under the Law AFTER Christ’s sacrifice.

      Christ is the goal of the Law – to lead people to Christ.
      Romans 10:4

      Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.

      The popular Jewish belief is that Jesus did not do away with the Law. And while He did not abolish it, He DID fulfill it. In fulfilling it, Jesus rendered the Law complete. The requirements were met (by HIM) and so apply to those who trust in Him. Since the requirements have been met, and people have come to Christ, there is no need for the Law. Which fits with what Paul wrote about the law being abolished – a difference in word usage but the effects are the same.

      Abolish means cancel, destroy, or terminate (ie. I no longer have to pay a debt if the debt is abolished/cancelled). Fulfill means complete (ie. I no longer have to pay a debt once the debt has been completed/met). The effects are the same, but the reason is different – in my example, the debt no longer must be paid. If it is abolished, it no longer has to be paid because the debt was terminated; if it is fulfilled, it no longer has to be paid because the debt was completed. This is what Jesus did for us. (see https://wbmoore.wordpress.com/2009/02/14/what-do-abolish-and-fulfill-mean-in-matthew-5-13-20/ for more info).

      If Gentiles are not and were not required to follow the Law, then how could the Law be against them and how could it stand opposed to them? It could not. Paul is not writing just to Gentiles, but to Jews as well. According to Paul, Christ forgave all our sins, having canceled the written code with its regulations.
      Colossians 2:13-14

      13 When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, 14 having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross.

      According to Paul, believers have been released from the Law. Since you say that Gentiles were never required to follow the Law, then why would Paul write that we have been released from it? Paul was speaking to Jews!

      Romans 7:6

      But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

      We are ALL freed from the Law.

      • Erin,

        The scripture you quoted in Matthew and Mark was from before Christ paid the sacrificial price for our sins, and I think you misunderstand them.

        Paul said in 1 Corinthians 20:19-23 that he was not under the Law, but he became like a Jew to win the Jews. He became like one under the Law even though he was not under the law so he could win those under the law.

        19 Though I am free and belong to no man, I make myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible. 20To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law. 21To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law. 22To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all men so that by all possible means I might save some. 23I do all this for the sake of the gospel, that I may share in its blessings.

        Acts 21 is an example of Paul being as one under the Law, so he might win those under the Law.

        Part of your argument is that Paul wrote some books which are only intended for Gentiles. But the text itself proves you wrong.

        if Galatians was written to Gentiles, who were not under the Law, then how is the Law supposed to have led them to Christ, which is what Paul wrote in Galatians 3:23-25? No. Galatians was written to people who knew the Law – the Jews.

        How could someone who was not under the Law die to the Law? They could not – Romans 7:4-6 applies to Jews.

        How can someone who was not under the Law have the Law stand opposed to them? They couldn’t. Colossians 2:13-14 applies to Jews.

        Believers, Jewish and Gentile, are free from the Law.

        If what Paul wrote, which is very clear, appears to contradict your understanding of what Jesus said, then perhaps you need to reexamine the meaning of what Jesus said.

        As I have said elsewhere, I have no problem with people (Jews or Gentiles) following the Law, so long as it is for the right reasons.

        But to follow the Law to be righteous is wrong. The Law was made for law breakers, not the righteous (1 Timothy 1:9). If righteousness could be gained from the Law, then Christ died for nothing (Galatians 2:21). If you try to keep the Law and break any of it, then you are guilty of breaking all of it (James 2:10).

        But scripture is clear that no one who trusts in Christ is under the Law.

  7. Of course Jesus came to be the very fulfillment of the “law and prophets” (Matt. 5:17-18, etc. 19-20 / Luke 24:44). Only the Jewish Messiah could do such. But this obedience extends also to the Gentiles…”The reproaches of those who reproached you fell on me.” (Rom. 15:3 / Ps 69:9/ Eph. 2:13-18, etc. 19-22 – Both Jew & Gentile) Here is the Law of God met! And then, Rom. 15: 7-8-9…”Welcome one another, therefore, as Christ has welcomed you, for the glory of God. For I tell you that Christ became a servant to the circumcised to show God’s truthfulness, in order to confirm the promises given to the patriarchs, and in order that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy.”

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  9. Wait, but doesn’t the Bible say that if there is no law, there is no sin. Being saved by grace doesn’t release us from our duty to obey our Creator’s rules. Jesus said himself, that if we love Him, we keep his commandments. (John 14:15, 15:10) We as Christians are still obligated to abide by the rules of God’s Kingdom, just like we are bound to keep the laws of our country. We keep the law not to be saved, but its a result of us being transformed by our faith. As James says, faith without works, is dead.

    So it’s very misleading to say that those under Christ and no longer under the law of God.

    • Its not misleading to say we are not under the law – its what Scripture tells us.
      Actually, I didn’t say we are free from the Law of GOD. The question I asked and answered was whether we are to follow the Law found in the Old Testament.

      Scripture says that before the law, there was sin in the world, but it was not taken into account – people were not held responsible for it.
      Romans 5:12-14

      12Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all men, because all sinned— 13for before the law was given, sin was in the world. But sin is not taken into account when there is no law. 14Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who was a pattern of the one to come.

      Paul said in 1 Corinthians 20:19-23 that he was not under the Law, but he became like a Jew to win the Jews. He became like one under the Law even though he was not under the law so he could win those under the law. Interestingly, Paul said though he is not under the law, he is under Christ’s law – indicating this is something different from the Law of Moses.

      1 Corinthians 20:19-23

      19 Though I am free and belong to no man, I make myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible. 20To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law. 21To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law. 22To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all men so that by all possible means I might save some. 23I do all this for the sake of the gospel, that I may share in its blessings.

      Hebrews 10:1-10 tells us the Law has been set aside for a new law.

      1The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming—not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship. 2If it could, would they not have stopped being offered? For the worshipers would have been cleansed once for all, and would no longer have felt guilty for their sins. 3But those sacrifices are an annual reminder of sins, 4because it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins. 5Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said: “Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, but a body you prepared for me; 6with burnt offerings and sin offerings you were not pleased. 7Then I said, ‘Here I am—it is written about me in the scroll— I have come to do your will, O God.’ 8First he said, “Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you pleased with them” (although the law required them to be made). 9Then he said, “Here I am, I have come to do your will.” He sets aside the first to establish the second. 10And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

      We see in Romans 7:6 that believers have been released from the Law and are to serve in the new way of the Spirit rather than in the old way of the written code.
      Romans 7:6

      6 But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

      As I have said before, I have no problem with people (Jews or Gentiles) following the Law, so long as it is for the right reasons.
      But to follow the Law to be righteous is wrong. The Law was made for law breakers, not the righteous (1 Timothy 1:9). If righteousness could be gained from the Law, then Christ died for nothing (Galatians 2:21). If you try to keep the Law and break any of it, then you are guilty of breaking all of it (James 2:10).

  10. I appreciate your detailed answer, but the truth is there is still a law that exists. Tell me, what is the Law of God? Last time I checked, the only place he wrote a set of laws with His finger was at Sinai.

    God’s eternal law, his 10 commandments were never done away with. You won’t find Paul or anyone saying that they were wiped out. The laws and traditions that were finished, like the example you used in Hebrews were of a ceremonial nature. See verse 8 of Hebrews 10:

    8First he said, “Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you pleased with them” (although the law required them to be made)

    That’s why we no longer have to kill a lamb every time we sin. But sin STILL exists in this world, does it not? Else we would be free to kill and steal and all that bad stuff. So that means there still exists a law.

    Psalms 119 says God’s commandments are eternal. Malachi 3:6 supports this, as God does not change. The ceremonial services in the tabernacle were a shadow point to the true sacrifice to come. Once that was done, we no longer needed them. But Jesus exhorted us to keep his commandments.

    God’s guiding principles, his 10 commandments, still stand, thats why we don’t cheat on our wives.

  11. So to clarify, we shouldn’t keep the law to be saved. We keep it because we love our God, because of His sacrifice for us, and as a result of us being transformed by our faith, we naturally refrain from breaking it.

    Just like we as kids have house rules, God has his house rules, the 10 Commandments. I did what was expected (most of the time) because I loved my parents, and didn’t want to suffer the consequences of disobeying. God expects the same from us. I don’t want to die, as the wages of sin is death. Romans 6:23.

    So you’re right, we shouldn’t keep the law for the wrong reasons, and some parts of the law were done away with, but God’s commandments still stand.

    • I think God’s law is we are to love – God and others. This is repeated in both testaments.

      Deuteronomy 6:5

      Love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.

      Matthew 22:37

      Jesus replied: ” ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’

      Lev. 19:18

      18 Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against one of your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the LORD.

      Matt 22:38

      This is the first and greatest commandment. 39And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’

      The old testament gives us many concrete literal ways we CAN exemplify love for God and others. God is much more interested in our hearts than our actions. If we have the heart, we will do as God wants. If we try to do what God has laid out in the Old Testament but do not give Him our hearts, we will not be saved.

      The purpose of the Law was to teach of our need for Christ.
      Galatians 3:19-25

      19What, then, was the purpose of the law? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was put into effect through angels by a mediator. 20A mediator, however, does not represent just one party; but God is one. 21Is the law, therefore, opposed to the promises of God? Absolutely not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come by the law. 22But the Scripture declares that the whole world is a prisoner of sin, so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe. 23Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. 24So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. 25Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law.

      Romans 10:4

      4 Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.

      Jesus has set aside the old Law.
      Colossians 2:13-14

      13 When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, 14 having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross.

      Hebrews 7:18-19

      18 The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless 19(for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God.

      If you can keep all the Law, then by all means follow it. But be careful, for if you fail in following one point, you fail in all of it.
      James 2:10

      10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

      This is not to say ignore the Law. The Law is part of the Scriptures inspired by God, which are good for teaching, for reproving, and for training in righteousness – so we can do good things. We SHOULD look for things that are pleasing to God and do those things. But it is the SPIRIT of God we need to have in ourselves and reflect in our lives – not following each jot and tittle.

      I have written more on this subject:
      https://wbmoore.wordpress.com/2009/02/16/has-the-mosaic-law-been-abolished/
      https://wbmoore.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/christians-and-the-law/

  12. Let me ask you this? Is there sin in this world? Am I allowed to murder someone now? I certainly hope not.

    I’ve been shown those texts many times before. You have to consider the Pauline letters in context. Paul isn’t doing away with the law, he’s done away with the law as a means for salvation. Because with out no law, there is no sin. 1 John 3:4

    For example: You used Romans 10:4.

    END does not mean “conclusion” as in “done away.” Rather, end should be “goal” or “purpose,” meaning that this verse names Christ as the object of the Bible (see Romans 6:22; I Timothy 1:5; James 5:11; I Peter 1:9). The law—indeed, the whole Bible—is aimed toward Him; He is its target. Paul is saying Jesus is what the law produces; He personifies its intent.

    If the law was done away, sin could not exist because Paul states, “By the law is the knowledge of sin” (Romans 3:20).

    You like to use James 2:10 a lot. It’s no excuse for not being able to try to keep it. ALL have fallen short, but that is what Jesus is there for. That’s why John 1:9 says that

    “If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.”

    Sin still exists. Therefore there is still a law me must abide by. The 2 greatest commandments sum up the law. Love God, (1st five) Love Man ( Next five).

    40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”

    Also See Romans 13:9 for further clarification:

    9 For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery,” “You shall not murder,” “You shall not steal,” “You shall not bear false witness,” “You shall not covet,” and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” [refers to the same Lev 19:18 passage you used]

    Jesus said to be careful in teaching people that we don’t live by a law:

    18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled. Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (Matt 5:18-19)

    Til Jesus comes again and cleanses this world of sin, there will still be HIS law.

    • I’m so tired of the various arguments where people want to add to the Gospel.

      It seems you are limiting the Law to the 10 commandments. The Law is so much more than that little bit of writing.

      As I have said, dont think I am saying to ignore the Law, but dont think we need to follow it either. We need to love God and others – this is what being a Christian is about. The Law shows SOME ways to do that. But people can follow the Law and never enter heaven.

      IF you try to keep the Law, then you are going against what Paul said.
      IF you try to keep the Law, and fail then you are guilty of all of it.

      You don’t take scripture as it is written.
      Yes, we become conscious of sin by knowledge of the Law (Romans 3:20). But we also died because of sin (Romans 7:9). Then we died to the Law so we could live for God (Galatians 2:19). Paul said the Law has been abolished (Ephesians 2:15). Galatians 4:23-25 tells us we are no longer under the supervision of the Law, if we have been led to Christ. We dont need to be circumcised or to follow certain holidays. We need to love God and others – this is the key – love in our hearts. The rest will follow from that.

      If you feel the need to follow the Law, feel free to follow all 637 of them. Personally, I’m grateful that CHRIST made the ultimate sacrifice once for all. I’m going to trust in the saving work of Christ rather than following any law.

      I think the key is motivation – we need to love. So many want to add to the work of Christ. If you think you can follow the Law and not do that, then you think something that Paul apparently did not think was possible. But more power to you.

  13. Ultimately, its motivation that matters. If we love God and others and use what is in the Law to show that love, then I have no problem with anyone following the Law. I mean, Paul had Timothy circumcised when he told the Galatians to not do that.

    Galatians 5:1-2

    1It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery. 2Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all.

    Acts 16:1-3

    1Paul came also to Derbe and to Lystra And a disciple was there, named Timothy, the son of a Jewish woman who was a believer, but his father was a Greek, 2 and he was well spoken of by the brethren who were in Lystra and Iconium. 3 Paul wanted this man to go with him; and he took him and circumcised him because of the Jews who were in those parts, for they all knew that his father was a Greek.

    The difference was motivation. Timothy did it to be all things to all people, while the Galatians were adding to the Gospel.

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