Are some destined to destruction?

It is clear that some are chosen by God and some are destined for stumbling and disobeying the message.
1 Peter 2:4-10

4 As you come to him, the living Stone—rejected by humans but chosen by God and precious to him— 5 you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house to be a holy priesthood, offering spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6 For in Scripture it says:
“See, I lay a stone in Zion,
a chosen and precious cornerstone,
and the one who trusts in him
will never be put to shame.”

7 Now to you who believe, this stone is precious. But to those who do not believe,

“The stone the builders rejected
has become the cornerstone,”

8 and,

A stone that causes people to stumble
and a rock that makes them fall.”

They stumble because they disobey the message—which is also what they were destined for.

9 But you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God’s special possession, that you may declare the praises of him who called you out of darkness into his wonderful light. 10 Once you were not a people, but now you are the people of God; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.

We know at least Judas was doomed for destruction.
John 17:12

12 While I was with them, I protected them and kept them safe by that name you gave me. None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that Scripture would be fulfilled.

In fact, enemies of the cross of Christ are destined to destruction.
Philippians 3:18-20

18 For, as I have often told you before and now tell you again even with tears, many live as enemies of the cross of Christ. 19 Their destiny is destruction, their god is their stomach, and their glory is in their shame. Their mind is set on earthly things. 20 But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ,

So yes. God predestines some to destruction. God does that because HE is the potter and can do what He wants. As a righteous and Holy God, He demands people be righteous to be able to enter into heaven. Those who are righteous will enter, and those who are not will not. God works to ensure His will is accomplished, but that does not mean EVERYONE will be saved.

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9 Responses

  1. The brethren of The Messiah have taken heed unto The Call to “Come Out of her, MY people” and no longer have their portion with those who follow “the broad way that leads to destruction”!

    Thankfully they are but “aliens and pilgrims while on the earth” for their “citizenship is in Heaven”!

    They have “Come Out” of this wicked world and it’s systems of religion and have taken heed unto the exhortation to:

    “Love Not The World”

    ”For the WHOLE(not just a portion) world is under the control of the evil one”…….(I John 5:19)

    “Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world will pass away, and the lust thereof: but he that does the will of The Only True GOD will abide for ever.”(IJohn2:15-17)

    “If you were of the world, the world would love it’s own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. Remember the word that I said unto you, the servant is not greater than his Master. If they have persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept My saying, they will keep yours also.” (John15:19-20)

    “Where do wars and fighting among you come from? Do they not come of your lusts that war in your members? You lust, and have not: you kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: you fight and war yet you have not, because you ask not. You ask, and receive not, because you ask amiss, that you may consume it upon your lusts. You adulterers and adulteresses, don’t you know that friendship with the world is to be at enmity with The Only True GOD? Therefore whoever will be a friend of the world is the enemy of The Only True GOD.” (James 4:1-4)

    “The world cannot hate you; but the world hates Me, because I testify that the works of this world are evil.” (John 7:7)” and “The Messiah gave Himself for our sins, that He might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of The Only True God, Our Father.”(Gal 1:4)

    The Messiah testified: “If the world hates you know that it hated Me before it hated you.”(John 5:18) Truly, Truly, I say unto you, except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abides alone: but if it die it brings forth much fruit. He that loves his life in this world shall lose it; and he that hates his life in this world shall have it unto life eternal.” (John 12:24-25)

    John testified: “Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hates you.” (I John 3:13) “ James testified, “Whoever would be a friend of this world is the enemy of GOD”(James4:4)

    “Come Out of her, MY people”!

    Global warming, polluted air, land and waters, toxic wastes, sexual perversion, evil inventions of destruction, greed, hate, carnal warfare, dis-ease(no-peace),,etc,, are all destructive processes that have their root in “the lust of the eye, the lust of the flesh, and the pride of life” all of which fuel the fires of mankind’s “imag”ination ;-(

    “Come out from among them and be separate”!

    Peace, in spite of the dis-ease(no-peace) that is of this world and it’s systems of religion, for “the WHOLE(not just a portion) world is under the control of the evil one” indeed and Truth……

    Truth IS, a lie never was and is not…….

    Abide in Truth……. francis

    • It is interesting to read what you posted here. I think it might have been clearer if you had used your own words and then used scripture to show your point.

      Christians need to be different than those in the world. We are called to be holy, to live worthy of our calling. Many people claim to be Christians who will be told Christ never knew them….

  2. Another verse that came to mind is:
    Romans 9:22

    What if God, although willing to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction?

  3. So, you going Theodore Beza, fella?

    • I had to look him up. No. I am not. I am still stuck between a tension of free-will and predestination. Someone might have shown me an understanding of scripture which makes more sense than either one, actually. I’m not sure.

  4. I stumbled onto your blog and read your last comment here… just thought I’d chime in regarding free-will and predestination.

    I read this somewhere and haven’t been able to reduce it any further. It seems as though we can only believe two of the following three.

    1.) God is omnipotent and will achieve all that He desires. (Luke 1:37, Psalm 135:6, among others)

    2.) God desires for all men to be saved. (1 Tim. 2:4, among others)

    3.) Some, if not many, will never obtain salvation and will either be cast into everlasting torment or annihilated. (Matt 22:1-14, among others)

    The problem is, all seem to be scriptural. It must be that one of these three has been read into the text instead of being taken from it.

    So which two do you believe… that’s the question to answer.

  5. WBMoore,

    You say,
    “There is NO contradiction in what is in the Bible. We only have to read it correctly.”

    I most certainly agree, in fact, this is my main point in what I was asking in my first post. We need to take a holistic approach to the scriptures not ignoring any of what is written.

    So I guess, to summarize your view, God wants \ desires \ wishes for all to be saved, but there is something He wants more – He wants us to come to a place of belief and choose salvation. He will not override our will to accomplish His desire.

    So, in reality, you believe points 1 and 3 above but point 2 is constrained by a higher or more important desire; namely, that man’s will is not overridden in the salvation process.

    Would this be a fair assessment?

    • well… no. I would say that
      1) God is omnipotent
      2) God will achieve all that He WILLS/plans (not the same thing as what He might like).

      1. God has a plan, and it will come to pass (Isaiah 14:24-27; 19:12; 22:11; 23:9; 37:26; 46:10-11; Jeremiah 49:20; 50:45)
      2. God’s plan does not change (Psalm 33:11)
      3. God’s plan includes everything (Proverbs 16:4; Ephesians 1:11)
      4. The will of God is that all the Father gives Christ will come to Him & be raised up in the last day and all that see & believe in Christ & will have eternal life (John 6:37-40)

      3) God desires all men to be saved,

      1. God so loved the world that He gave His only Son that who ever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life (John 3:16)
      2. Jesus invited all to come to Him (Matthew 11:28)
      3. God commands all people to repent (Acts 17:30-31)
      4. God wants all to be saved (1 Timothy 2:3-4)
      5. The work of God is that we believe in Christ (John 6:29)
      6. Jesus is the author of salvation (Hebrews 2:9-10)
      7. Jesus is the author & perfecter of faith (Hebrews 12:2)

      4) God provides a way for all to be saved

      1. God so loved the world that He gave His only Son that who ever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life (John 3:16)
      2. Jesus invited all to come to Him (Matthew 11:28)
      3. No one can come to Christ unless the Father who sent Christ draws him (John 6:44)
      4. Everyone who has heard and learned from God the Father will come to Christ (John 6:45)
      5. Only those God has specifically granted permission can come to Christ (John 6:65)
      6. All the Father gives to Christ will come to Him and never be driven away (John 6:37; 17:24)

      5) Many will never receive salvation and will be cast into the lake of fire, the second death (Rev 20:11-15)

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