Why do young adults leave Christianity in college?

Someone asked why do I think so many young adults leave Christianity while in college?

 

  1. It is easier for a camel to go thru the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter the kingdom of God (Matthew 19:24; Mark 10:25; Luke 18:25).
  2. Many are called, but few are chosen (Matthew 22:14).
  3. There are false prophets and false teachers among us (2 Peter 2:1).
  4. At least some who leave do so to show they were never of the church (1 John 2:19).
  5. Some who leave show they are prodigals who will return (Luke 15:11-32).
  6. The disciples had a three year period as adults of living with the Christ and learning from Him before they were sent out into the world to make disciples. Our children (as young adults) only have 2 hours a week (if that) for much of their lives of being taught and few actually are discipled. They dont have sufficient discipleship so they are not prepared for the rigors of facing so much sin and so many attacks on faith from supposedly educated people. They have little or no experience with debate, or even discussion of applying scripture to real life situations. They have little or no training in apologetics.

Church, cliques and tithing

Someone complained they didn’t go to church because the churches are full of cliques they are ot part of and are always trying to get into their wallets.

Yes churches are filled with imperfect people and some have cliques (not all do). Yes some churches focus on tithing. But sometimes we feel convicted and they aren’t focusing on it all the time, we are just extra sensitive to it.

The true church is made up of the people of God. Any given individual church is made up of the people of God and those who are not the people of God – some will become the people of God in the future but are not there yet. God only has imperfect sinners to work with in fulfilling His plan. And its filled with people who can love on us and whom we can love on. Its filled with people who should call us to live holy righteous lives. Its a group of people who will teach us and encourage us and help us. And God’s word says we should not stop gathering together.

Hebrews 10:25 not forsaking our own assembling together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another; and all the more as you see the day drawing near

As for tithing, 10% is the old testament goal (actually I think someone counted up all the offerings and givings and it came out to 23%). In the new testament, we are taught we should give sacrificially and gladly, and God will provide for every good deed.

2 Corinthians 9:6-8
6 Now this I say, he who sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and he who sows bountifully will also reap bountifully. 7 Each one must do just as he has purposed in his heart, not grudgingly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. 8 And God is able to make all grace abound to you, so that always having all sufficiency in everything, you may have an abundance for every good deed;

The money goes to rent/mortgage, utilities, salary, supporting missionaries, church programs. Pastors spend hours and days preparing sermons and lessons and visiting the sick and imprisoned, counseling people, trying to rescue marriages and help people, etc.

Jesus said the worker is worthy of his pay.

Matthew 10:9-10
9 Do not acquire gold, or silver, or copper for your money belts, 10 or a bag for your journey, or even two coats, or sandals, or a staff; for the worker is worthy of his support.

Paul said the same thing.

1 Timothy 5:17-18
17 The elders who rule well are to be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who work hard at preaching and teaching. 18 For the Scripture says, “You shall not muzzle the ox while he is threshing,” and “The laborer is worthy of his wages.

Its understandable that sometimes its hard to get to church. But God has said we need to gather together with godly people – so its not something we should purposefully avoid. We need to seek godly people to fill our lives and to encourage us and to pray for us and to challenge us and to teach us and exhort us. We also need to give sacrificially.

Thanking God in the midst of difficulty

I look at everything that has happened in my family’s lives and recognize that God has allowed so much to happen (even while I recognize that people have made their own choices and those choices have affected them and others).
 
I know that what man and the enemy meant for evil (or even selfish pleasure), God meant for good (Genesis 50:20).
 
I know God will use these things for the good of those who love Him and are called according to His purpose (Romans 8:28).
 
I am comforted by the fact that my family can be comforted by God so they can comfort others with the godly love and comfort they have received (2 Corinthians 1:3-4).
 
So even in the difficult times, we can easily find ways to be thankful to God and praise Him.
 
I thank God for what He has done, is doing, and will do in our lives.

Six degrees of separation and consequences to actions/decisions

Ever wonder about why life is so hard? Why does God allow bad things to happen? I’ve been pondering this lately….

Posit: God CAN cause people to make the choice He wants, but that would be a supernatural intervention and while possible, has only rarely been documented to have happened. In most cases, God lets us make choices.

Now, have you considered that there are six degrees of separation between you and anyone else on the planet?

What if that also applies to effect of actions/decisions? What if your action could affect someone on the other side planet because of six degrees of separation?

What if you eat something that gives you gas, and you fart out loud and someone laughs and he is on the phone with someone who didnt know why he laughed and took it personally and told her girlfriend and was convinced by her girlfriend that the guy laughed at her and she cried to her boyfriend who decided to beat the guy up – just because you ate something that gave you gas….

I think we could come up with a scenario where someone on the other side of the world who is within six degrees of separation would be affected by your actions/decision, if we tried hard enough…

My only point is, God uses our choices and actions to move the universe forward in His plan and since we affect those around us, God probably very rarely has to cause a decision to be made, He usually just orchestrates the choices we freely make to bring out His goal…

The Elements of the pattern of church service and life can be seen in scripture

The elements of the pattern of church service and life can be seen in scripture.

True worshippers are to worship in truth and spirit (John 4:24), by the Spirit of God (Philippians 3:3). True believers remained in the teaching of God (2 John 1:9). They would have obeyed God as opposed to rebelled against God (1 John 3:10).

Men, women, and children would have gathered together to hear what was being taught – It may have been that only children who were old enough to understand who were in church service (such as those who were age 12, the age of when Jewish boys have their bar mitzvah, which happens to be the age of Jesus when he was in the temple courts sitting among the teachers, listening and asking questions) (Deuteronomy 31:12; Nehemiah 8:1-3; Luke 2:41-47; Luke 18:15-17; Ephesians 6:1-4; Colossians 3:20-21; 2 John 1:1).

They met together on the first day of the week (Acts 20:7). They met in the temple courts, in people’s homes, beside rivers, in synagogues, and in lecture halls (possibly schools) (Acts 2:42-47; Acts 16:13; Acts 19:8-9).

The church leaders were male elders and male deacons and female deaconesses (Acts 6:2-8; Acts 16:13; Romans 16:1; Philippians 1:1; 1 Timothy 3:1-13; Titus 1:5-10).

The communion supper (also known as the Lord’s Supper) was observed (Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 11:18-32).

Prayers were offered up to God alone, in harmony with the will of God (1 Corinthians 14:15–16; Nehemiah 4:9; Matthew 6:9,;1 John 5:14).

Songs were sung to the glory of God and thanks to God was given (Ephesians 5:19-20; Psalms 95, 96, 98).

A free will collection was taken (1 Corinthians 16:1-2; 2 Corinthians 9:7). The Church was not involved with business (Matthew 21:12–13).

Sometimes church discipline occurred (Matt. 18:17).

The Scriptures were publically read (Colossians 4:16; 1 Tim. 4:13), and the Word of God was proclaimed (Acts 20:7; 2 Timothy 3:16–17; 2 Timothy 4:2).

Indeed, each had a hymn, a word of instruction, a revelation, a tongue, or an interpretation (1 Corinthians 14:28).

A Christian is to live righteously.

It astounds me people who have been taught the truth about God want to keep poo-pooing what scripture says, ignoring it in favor of choosing to follow their own desires.

But remember, we are expected to love our brothers – this means showing them how to live righteously, calling them on NOT doing so, and then forgiving them when/if they repent.

Calling someone on their behavior is not the same thing as judging them. According to JESUS CHRIST, we are expected to live righteous lives. And we are expected to call out our brothers in Christ who are not living like God said to live. And we are expected to forgive them when they repent.

Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.’

Matthew 18:15-17
15 “If your brother sins, go and show him his fault in private; if he listens to you, you have won your brother. 16 But if he does not listen to you, take one or two more with you, so that by the mouth of two or three witnesses every fact may be confirmed. 17 If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.

Matthew 18:21-22
21 Then Peter came and said to Him, “Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me and I forgive him? Up to seven times?” 22 Jesus *said to him, “I do not say to you, up to seven times, but up to seventy times seven.

Scripture does not say God stopped speaking

Many want to say that God does not speak today.
 
I simply do not see that in scripture.
 
We are to test everything by scripture – no where does the bible teach God does not speak today.
1 Thessalonians 5:21

But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good;
 
1 John 4:1
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
People use the following  passages to say God doesnt speak today, so I will address them each.
 
Revelation 22:18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book;
 
Rev 22:18 is speaking about the book of revelation – not the Bible.
 
2 Timothy 3:16-17
16 All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; 17 so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.
 
2 Tim 3:16-17 – all scripture is inspired, profitable for equipping man for every good work. But its does not say that God has stopped speaking.
 
Malachi 3:6 “For I, the Lord, do not change; therefore you, O sons of Jacob, are not consumed.
 
Malachi 3:6 says God does not change – this is true. But that does not say that God stopped speaking – perhaps because then He would have changed.
 
Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.
 
Hebrews 13:8 says Jesus Christ does not change. Again, this dos not say anything about whether God has stopped speaking.
 
James 1:17 Every good thing given and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shifting shadow.
 
James 1:17 – says God does not change – God spoke, so if he does not change, then He still speaks.
 
Numbers 23:19
“God is not a man, that He should lie,
Nor a son of man, that He should repent;
Has He said, and will He not do it?
Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?
 
 
Numbers 23:19 – God does not lie or repent. Again, this would indicate God doesnt change, but people want us to believe God has changed and stopped speaking.
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