Can a practicing homosexual to be a Christian?

I saw an article where a woman claiming to be a Christian fell in love with a another woman, divorced her husband and married her new love: http://www.charismanews.com/us/64992-famed-christian-mommy-blogger-throws-faith-to-the-wind-to-marry-lesbian-partner . There was one line which really caught my attention, where she said if Jesus “needed me to believe that homosexuality was a sin, He would have mentioned it.”

The thing is, God has done exactly that:

Lev 19:1

And Jehovah spoke to Moses, saying, …

Lev_20:13

If a man also lies with mankind, as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be on them.

 

Adopting a sinful lifestyle shows the “christian” is only one in name, not in  fact.

We are only Christians is we hold fast to the faith until the end.

Hebrews 3:6

but Christ was faithful as a Son over His house—whose house we are, if we hold fast our confidence and the boast of our hope firm until the end.

Hebrews 3:13-14

13 But encourage one another day after day, as long as it is still called “Today,” so that none of you will be hardened by the deceitfulness of sin. 14 For we have become partakers of Christ, if we hold fast the beginning of our assurance firm until the end

Not everyone who claims to be a Christian is actually a Christian.

Matthew 7:21-23

21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of
heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness.’

If we love Christ, if we know God, we will keep his commandments.

1 John 2:3-6

3 By this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His
commandments. 4 The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” and does
not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him; 5 but
whoever keeps His word, in him the love of God has truly been
perfected. By this we know that we are in Him: 6 the one who says he
abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as He walked.

And God as clear that homosexual sex is a sin, against what God has said to do.
It doesnt matter if the person is male or female, they are not to have sex with someone of the same gender.
Romans 1:24-32

24 Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them. 25 For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.  26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.  28 And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; 32 and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10

9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.

1 Timothy 1:8-11

8 But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, 9 realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers 10 and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, 11 according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted.

So although some might want to claim God has not said anything about homosexual sex, the fact is that He did – its a sin. We are not to sin.

With what sort of things should Christians be entertained?

So many time I see or hear Christians say they went to see some movie which depicts things God has said are abominable, or said to not do. I have long felt that a Christian should not be entertained by things God has said to not do. Does scripture agree?

First we have to realize There are things of the spirit and things of the flesh.

Galatians 5:19-24 (NKJV)

19 Now the works of the flesh are evident, which are: adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lewdness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, contentions, jealousies, outbursts of wrath, selfish ambitions, dissensions, heresies, 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, revelries, and the like; of which I tell you beforehand, just as I also told you in time past, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. 24 And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

So we know from Galatians 5:21 that we should not do the things considered to be works of the flesh, or we will not enter heaven.

Scripture tells us to not look at bad things.

Psalm 101:3 (NKJV)

I will set nothing wicked before my eyes;
I hate the work of those who fall away;
It shall not cling to me.

Scripture also tells us what to focus upon.

Philippians 4:8 (NKJV)

Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy—meditate on these things.

We are warned that making ourselves friends with the world will ensure we are enemies with God.

James 4:4  (NKJV)

Adulterers and adulteresses! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.

Indeed, people who love the world or love the things in the world, do not have the love of God in them.  We are told not to love the things in the world – lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes, and pride of life – because they are of the world, not God.

1 John 2:15-17 (NKJV)

15 Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—is not of the Father but is of the world. 17 And the world is passing away, and the lust of it; but he who does the will of God abides forever.

Finally, what ever we do, we are to do it in the name of the Lord.

Colossians 3:17 (NKJV)

17 And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him.

Should a Christian  be entertained by something that depicts as good that God has said to not do? Magic/witchcraft/sorcery, getting drunk/high, homosexual sex, heterosexual sex with someone to whom you are not married, lying/deceitfulness, covetousness, stealing, murder are all things we are told are not good (Galatians 5:18-21, Romans 1:28-32).

Romans 1:28-32

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, 30 backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; 32 who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.

We should seek things which will please God, not the world.

Ephesians 5:8-10(NKJV)

For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light (for the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness, righteousness, and truth), 10 finding out what is acceptable to the Lord.

And we should not be entertained by things which depict as good the things God has said is evil – regardless of the form said entertainment is packed in – such books, games, movies, TV shows, theatre plays, etc.

 

For further discussion, see What and Who you surround yourself with affects you.

One of the coolest things happened yesterday…

As anyone who has been following me for any length of time knows, I post both here and on facebook. Sometimes I post a lot. Lately I have posted a few things on sexual sin.

I received a private message yesterday from a man who has been bringing his family to our church for a while now. They have been becoming friends with our church and family. We actually had lunch together a couple of Sundays ago, where I was able to open up a little about me and my family. He had seen that I had been posting stuff dealing with sex and wanted to know why I have posted so much lately on sexual sin and homosexuality. He wanted to know out of love and concern. He wanted to make sure everything was ok with me. He wanted to know if there was anything he could pray for me about. He was not judgemental (although he recoginzed the possiblity of sin in my life). He was not condemning. He was gracious and loving and encouraging.

This is the church in action. This is how Christians should act with one another.

We all have sins, which we must confess – we must agree with God that they are sins.

1 John 1:8-10

8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us.

We must not stop gathering together – this provides the mechanism for building relationships, which is needed to encourage one another to become more like Christ.

Hebrews 10:24-25

24 And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds, 25 not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another—and all the more as you see the Day approaching.

We must bear one another’s burdens, helping each other as we can, although we are each responsible for our own sins. We also have to make sure we dont fall into temptation.

Galatians 6:1-5

1 Brethren, even if anyone is caught in any trespass, you who are spiritual, restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness; each one looking to yourself, so that you too will not be tempted. 2 Bear one another’s burdens, and thereby fulfill the law of Christ. 3 For if anyone thinks he is something when he is nothing, he deceives himself. 4 But each one must examine his own work, and then he will have reason for boasting in regard to himself alone, and not in regard to another. 5 For each one will bear his own load.

James tells us that we must confess our sins to one another, so we can pray for each other so we can be healed. Anyone who turns a sinner from his ways saves a soul.

James 5:13-20

13 Is anyone among you suffering? Then he must pray. Is anyone cheerful? He is to sing praises. 14 Is anyone among you sick? Then he must call for the elders of the church and they are to pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord; 15 and the prayer offered in faith will restore the one who is sick, and the Lord will raise him up, and if he has committed sins, they will be forgiven him. 16 Therefore, confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another so that you may be healed. The effective prayer of a righteous man can accomplish much. 17 Elijah was a man with a nature like ours, and he prayed earnestly that it would not rain, and it did not rain on the earth for three years and six months. 18 Then he prayed again, and the sky poured rain and the earth produced its fruit.

19 My brethren, if any among you strays from the truth and one turns him back, 20 let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins.

Part of the purpose of going to church is to encourage one another in difficult times – and this includes when we are sinning. Our brothers in Christ should have a good relationship with us so they can come to us when they see we are not acting as we should and help us get on the right path. they can not do that if we are not open with them, or we do not have a relationship with them, or if they are not part of our lives sufficiently so they can see when we are sinning.

Thankfully, I was able to reiterate what I had said last week. I was able to try to reassure him I was not in trouble, but mentioned to him specific things which he could choose to pray about or not.

So yeah… one of the coolest things happened yesterday. A brother in Christ came to me to ask if I was in trouble and if he could pray for me. His private message challenged me to walk right in case I was not, and it was done in a non-judgemental, loving, merciful, gracious manner. The church in action. I love it!

Abstain from sexual immorality

This was an interesting passage I ran across recently.

1 Thessalonians 4:1-8

  Finally then, brethren, we request and exhort you in the Lord Jesus, that as you received from us instruction as to how you ought to walk and please God (just as you actually do walk), that you excel still more. For you know what commandments we gave you by the authority of the Lord Jesus. For this is the will of God, your sanctification; that is, that you abstain from sexual immoralitythat each of you know how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor, not in lustful passion, like the Gentiles who do not know God; and that no man transgress and defraud his brother in the matter because the Lord is the avenger in all these things, just as we also told you before and solemnly warned youFor God has not called us for the purpose of impurity, but in sanctification. So, he who rejects this is not rejecting man but the God who gives His Holy Spirit to you.

So many times, people want to accept some sin and reject others. Some will say to not have homosexual sex, while the ignore people who have sex outside of marriage. In fact, this command refers back to the moral code of the Old Testament – we must not sin sexually – in any way that God has said not to! While this includes homosexual sex, it also includes incest, people you are not married to, and bestiality (Leviticus 18).

There’s a lot of forbidden sex. One should not commit adultery (Genesis 20:1-7; Deuteronomy 5:18; Hebrews 13:4; Proverbs 23:26-27). One should not have sex with someone to whom you are not married (Deuteronomy 22:12-30)

One should not have sex with people of the same gender (Leviticus 18:22; 20:13; Romans 1:26-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9-10). One should not have sex with animals (Exodus 22:19; Leviticus 18:23, 20:15-16). One should not have sex with people to whom you are related (other than your husband or wife)  (Leviticus 18:6-15; 20; Deuteronomy 27:20-23; 1 Corinthians 5:1-13). This means to not have sex with  a close relative (Leviticus 18:6), with your sister/brother (Leviticus 18:9, 20:17; Deuteronomy 27:22), with your grandson/granddaugher (Leviticus 18:10), with your aunt/uncle (Leviticus 18:12-13; 20:19-20), with your daughter-in-law (Leviticus 18:15), your father’s wife (Leviticus 20:11; 27:20; 1 Corinthians 5:1-13), your wife’s mother (Leviticus 18:14; Deuteronomy 27:23), your brother’s wife (Leviticus 18:16), your wife’s granddaughter (Leviticus 18:17), your wife’s sister , while your wife is living (Leviticus 18:18) – basically any close relative by blood or marriage.

Seuxal immorality is contrary to sound doctrine and is one of the things we are to leave behind when we become Christians (Colossians 3:4-7; 1 Timothy 1:9-11). The people of Sodom and Gomorrah were sexually immoral and were judged for it (Jude 1:6-8). There should be no one who calls themselves Christ’s who is sexually immoral (Ephesians 5:2-4; Hebrews 12:15-17). We are not even to associate with the sexually immoral (1 Corinthians 5:10-12). God gives people an opportunity to repent from sexual immorality (), but God will judge and punish those who are sexual immoral (1 Corinthians 10:7-9; Hebrews 13:3-5; Revelation 2:19-21; Revelation 9:20-21; Revelation 21:7-9′ Revelation 22:14-16). Indeed, God goes on to say that the sexually immoral will not inherit the kingdom of God (1 Corinthians 6:9-10; Galatians 5:19-21).

We should be in control of ourselves – we are not animals who can not (or will not) control themselves. We are God’s people – we are to be holy as God is holy (1 Peter 1:16). This is one of the reasons God has given marriage – to prevent sexual immorality (1 Corinthians 7:2-5;  1 Thessalonians 4:3-5).

Realize there is a major warning here –  by rejecting this instruction, you reject God.  This is not something to be taken lightly. We must look to God and not indulge ourselves. We must be holy, and this is one area of holiness which God haas mentioned a lot. So it must be both common and a definite no-no. Control yourself, Christian! Be God’s person and do not disobey God, or suffer the consequences – both in this life and in the afterlife.

What if your child comes out as gay?

There are some who want to claim being gay is not a sin, while others claim having homosexual sex is not gay. Some people believe that people re born gay, while others think people become gay. I think the reason one is gay is irrelevant to whether one should have homosexual sex. I dont care which hair you split it on, it boils down to the idea that lusting in your heart is sin (Mat 5:28), and laying with someone of the same gender as a man and wife do is a sin (1 Timothy 1:10). But the purpose of this post is not to discuss that, but to make you think a little bit…

So what do you do if your child comes out as gay? Do you invite him/her to family events? Do you invite the significant other? Does that indicate accepting, embracing, or encouraging sin? Should you treat a child who is living with someone outside of wedlock any differently? Why or why not?

 

Are people born gay?

This is an interesting article I found today and I thought I’d pass it along.

There is a common belief among liberals that people are born either gay or straight. Conservatives tend to believe that sexual orientation is actually sexual preference, which is chosen by the individual. This page represents a review of the scientific literature on the basis for homosexual orientation.

Are people born gay or straight? Much of the current media sources assume the question is a solved scientific problem with all the evidence pointing toward a biological (probably genetic) basis for a homosexual orientation. Contrary to this perception, the question has been poorly studied (or studied poorly), although there is some evidence on both sides of question. In addition, many of the initial studies, which were highly touted by the media as “proof” for a biological basis for homosexuality, have been contradicted by later, more thorough studies. This evidence falls into four basic categories:

  1. Brain structure
  2. Possible hormonal influences
  3. Concordance of homosexuality in twins
  4. Concordance of genetic markers in siblings

How close to the line of sin can I walk?

Someone asked

Does this mean I can stay with my boyfriend as long as we don’t have sex anymore?

What follows is my answer.

 

Maybe I am coming at this wrong, but it seems to me the first question to ask yourself is:

“Am I saved? Do I believe God sent His Son to become human to suffer and die for my sins and do I accept that for myself?” (Acts 4:12) This is much more than simply believing something has occurred historically – it is trusting in it. If you trust in something, it will affect your life. This is what Paul and James both wrote about in Acts 26:20, and James 2:14-24 when they said we have to have evidence of our faith.

The next question to ask yourself is:
“Are we both committed to Christ?” 2 Corinthians 6:14 tell us that an unbeliever and a believer should not be yoked together. And if someone is not as committed or more to Christ as you are, then you need to take a look at any sort of relationship like that.

The next question is, how close to the “line” of sin do you want to walk? It seems to me you are asking the wrong the question. We should avoid sin. Would sleeping with him cause either of you to sin?

I think the answer is found in the principle we see in Matthew 5:28

28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

I think when our looking at someone turns from appreciating beauty to lust (the principle would say, regardless of gender), it is sin.

Romans 1:24 & 26 speak of sinful desires of the heart and shameful lusts – both of which, at a minimum, would tie back to Matthew 5:28.

This would also tie into taking every thought captive for Christ, as we are told to do in 2 Corinthians 10:5.

1 Corinthians 6:18 tells us to flee sexual immorality, which also ties back into what Christ said in Matthew 5:28.

Obviously all of us stumble and are not perfect (James 2:10, 3:2), but we should avoid causing others to sin (Romans 14:20; 1 Corinthians 10:32).

Would lust ever come up if you slept together, for either of you?
Would it cause either of you to stumble?
Would it cause you to WANT to sin (a mental sin)?
Would it cause you to sin physically?

Is still living together holding on to something that God would see as wrong? If God wants you to let something go, to stop something, would you?

[edit:this line is added to this post] This is repentance. If God wants us to change, would we? If not, then we are not really obeying God; we are not repenting.

God wants our everything. If we are holding part of ourselves back, he is unlikely to be able to look at us and say well done good and faithful servant (Matthew 25:21, 23; Luke 19:17). And if we are HIS, that is what we should want. We need to be faithful in the small things as well as in the large things – in every way in our lives, and this includes the relationships we enter into (or remain in).

 

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